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David Weiss äussert sich wie folgt:
OK, the Tyrone Washington trainwreck date is not so bad. It is kind of out there though there are tunes, some interesting ones in fact. Herbie Hancock plays great on it and is very experimental at times. Tyrone sounds most like Sam Rivers to me on this date and the date has elements of a Sam Rivers date or perhaps a little Andrew Hill with Chick Corea (with Bennie Maupin)“Is“ thrown in. The real problem to me is it seems that Herbie Lewis and Jack DeJohnette never really hook up, especially on the medium tempo tunes. One tune is almost completetly free with a section of what can only be described as vocal „sounds“ in a sort of deep you’re a mean one Mr. Grinch voice. Stangely there is no vocal interlude on the second take, I guess that was a bit much for Alfred. There is some worthy stuff here but it couldn’t be released on it’s own. I guess you could put a few bonus tracks on Natural Essence but it’s unlikely that that would ever be slated for release either. Oh well. What ever happened to Tyrone Washington? I’ve never heard anything. I did hear a story about him when he was with Horace Silver though. He took it kind of out (playing-wise I mean) on the gig with Horace once and Horace told him to play the blues. Tyrone responded that he thought he was. That was it for him in that band.
Anfangs 2005 hiess es mal, Cuscuna hab in die Session reingehört, mit dem Plan, sie (oder Tiele davon) an einen Reissue von „Natural Essence“ anzuhängen.
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Und hier gibt’s eine kleine Diskussion zur McLean Session mit Connors.
Falls jemand das Cadence-Interview mit McLean zur Hand hat, in dem er sich über die Session und Connors äussert, bitte bitte abtippen für uns!
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Und dann gibt’s auch noch die hier:
Kenny Dorham Sextet
Kenny Dorham (tp) Charles Davis (bars) Kenny Drew (p) Grant Green (g) Wilbur Ware (b) Kai ??? (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, March 19, 1961
tk.9 Mason Dixon Line Blue Note rejected
tk.20 Blues Lament –
tk.24 Cross „D“ Tracks –
tk.26 Blue Ching –
tk.27 Spadesville –
tk.31 9 1/2 Street –
Fred Jackson Quintet
Fred Jackson (ts, cowbell) „Big“ John Patton (p) Grant Green (g) Herbie Lewis (b) Ben Dixon (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, June 21, 1962
tk.5 ‚T Ain’t No Big Thing rejected
Peace Pipe –
Jacksonville –
[one track from this session with Patton on piano eventually made it to the „Lost Sessions“ Connoisseur]
Horace Silver Tentet
Kenny Dorham, Blue Mitchell (tp) Grachan Moncur III (tb) Julius Watkins (frh) Junior Cook, Jimmy Heath (ts) Charles Davis (bars) Horace Silver (p) Gene Taylor (b) Roy Brooks (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, April 11, 1963
Silver’s Serenade Blue Note rejected
Sweet Sweetie Dee –
Nineteen Bars –
Next Time I Fall In Love –
Horace Silver Tentet
same personnel
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, April 12, 1963
The Dragon Lady Blue Note rejected
Let’s Go To The Nitty Gritty –
Nineteen Bars –
Grant Green Sextet
John Gilmore (ts) Bobby Hutcherson (vib) Duke Pearson (p) Grant Green (g) Butch Warren (b) Billy Higgins (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, February 12, 1964
1299 Untitled Grant Green Tune, No. 3 Blue Note rejected
1300 Minor League –
1301 Grant’s Tune –
1302 Un Poco Loco –
1303 Ezz-thetic –
[some of the tunes were rerecorded four months later for the “Solid” album (which also wasn’t released at the time), but with completely different sidemen. This session is particularly noteworthy for the presence of John Gilmore.]
Horace Silver Quintet
Carmell Jones (tp) Joe Henderson (ts) Horace Silver (p) Teddy Smith (b) Roger Humphries (d)
„Pep’s“, Philadelphia, PA, August 15, 1964
1413 The Natives Are Restless Tonight Blue Note rejected
1414 Que Pasa –
1415 Pretty Eyes –
1416 The Kicker –
tk.1 I’ll Remember April –
tk.2 The Kicker –
tk.3 Pretty Eyes –
tk.4 Que Pasa –
tk.5 Skinny Minnie –
tk.6 Mexican Hip Dance –
tk.7 The Natives Are Restless Tonight –
tk.8 Que Pasa –
tk.9 The Kicker –
tk.10 Mexican Hip Dance –
tk.11 The Natives Are Restless Tonight –
tk.12 Skinny Minnie –
tk.13 Pretty Eyes –
tk.14 Que Pasa –
tk.15 Mexican Hip Dance –
tk.16 The Kicker –
tk.17 Pretty Eyes –
tk.18 The Natives Are Restless Tonight –
tk.19 Que Pasa –
tk.20 The Kicker –
tk.21 The Natives Are Restless Tonight –
tk.22 Que Pasa –
tk.23 The Kicker –
[Cuscuna gave the tapes to Horace and who knows what happened to them. How could this all be bad?]
Charlie Rouse Quintet
Charlie Rouse (ts) Joe Zawinul (p) Grant Green (g) Sam Jones (b) Frankie Dunlop (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, April 17, 1963
tk.4 Clo-E Blue Note rejected
tk.13 Little Sherri –
tk.17 What Kind Of Fool Am I? –
tk.24 I Left My Hart In San Francisco –
Charlie Rouse Quintet
Freddie Hubbard (tp) Charlie Rouse (ts) McCoy Tyner (p) Bob Cranshaw (b) Billy Higgins (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, January 22, 1965
1506 tk.9 Little Sherri rejected
Untitled Original –
Untitled Minor Blues –
1507 I’m Glad There Is You –
[Charlie Rouse had two rejected sessions and “Little Sherri” was played on both. The latter version is from the same session that yielded One For Five, and according to Cuscuna it has a bad trumpet solo. If that is the only problem, it could have been edited and released as a perfectly fine Rouse track, and maybe the others too.]
Herbie Hancock Nonet
Melvin Lastie (cor) Julian Priester (tb) Stanley Turrentine (ts) Pepper Adams (bars) Herbie Hancock (p) Billy Butler, Eric Gale (g) Bob Cranshaw (b) Bernard Purdie (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, July 19, 1966
1770 tk.12 Untitled Ballad rejected
1771 tk.14 Untitled Blues –
1772 tk.15 Soul Villa –
1773 tk.17 Untitled Blues, No. 2 –
1774 tk.21 Don’t Even Go There Blue Note CDP 7243 4 95569-2
1775 tk.26 You Know What To Do rejected
* Herbie Hancock – The Complete Blue Note Sixties Sessions (Blue Note CDP 7243 4 95569-2)
Lee Morgan Quintet
Lee Morgan (tp) Frank Mitchell (ts) Harold Mabern (p) Mickey Bass (b) Billy Higgins (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, September 13, 1968
4007 tk.4 Blues For Mr. Tatum rejected
4008 tk.8 The Sleepwalker –
4009 tk.11 Mickey’s Tune Blue Note CDP 7243 5 22467-2
4010 tk.16 The Chief rejected
4011 tk.21 Leebop Blue Note CDP 7243 5 22467-2
4012 tk.29 Extemporaneous –
* Lee Morgan – The Sixth Sense (Blue Note CDP 7243 5 22467-2)
[Cuscuna first said that this session should be burned, then he released half of it as bonus tracks to “The Sixth Sense”. According to those who have heard the other tracks, they are not noticeably worse.]
Grant Green Sextet
Claude Bartee (ts) Willie Bivens (vib) Clarence Palmer (el-p -1/4,6,7) Earl Neal Creque (el-p -5) Grant Green (g) Jimmy Lewis (el-b) Leo Morris (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, October 3, 1969
6. tk.26 or 27 Wichita Lineman unissued
7. 5250 tk.30 By The Time I Get To Phoenix –
[From the “Carryin’ On” session. I mention this because when “Alive” was first released on CD it didn’t have any bonus tracks. Then it was rereleased on CD with three bonus tracks. Apparently the producer missed them the first time, and since „Carryin‘ On“ was released in the same series, it could be the same with these two extra tracks.]
Wayne Shorter Quintet
Wayne Shorter (ts) Barbara Burton (vib, bells, per) McCoy Tyner (p) Miroslav Vitous (b) Alphonse Mouzon (d, per)
A&R Studios, NYC, October 13, 1970
tk.3 Pt. 1: The Creation Blue Note rejected
tk.4 Pt. 2: B. Because –
tk.5 Pt. 3: Cee –
tk.7 Pt. 4: Dee –
tk.8 Pt. 5: Effe –
[This is also not so bad according to Belden or Evered]
Diese kleine Liste kommt von hier, es findet sich dort auch noch eine Liste mit Sessions, die verloren/verschollen sind.
Da gibt’s nochmal einen kleine Kommentar von David Weiss:
I’ve asked about the Silver material. The Live at Pep’s and Tentet stuff was given back to Horace I’m told and I also asked Horace about it and he said the tentet stuff was quite sloppy, the ensembles a mess etc etc. I think I was told the Pep’s stuff was rejected because Carmell Jones was having chop problems on this, can’t remember for sure though.
I picked the tracks from the Lee Morgan session that were included on the Sixth Sense. I thought I used everything that should see the light of day. The other stuff really wasn’t happening and I love this stuff so it would take a lot for me not to include it. The tracks I didn’t choose were quite sleepy and Lee’s solos were really off.
I heard a little of the Herbie stuff and again there were some ensemble issues here. Bob Belden is about the biggest Herbie fan on earth so if there was something else close to being suitable for release, I’m sure he would have included it.
I’d love to hear the Grant Green with Gilmore and the KD stuff but never have.
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