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Originally posted by Napoleon Dynamite@4 Apr 2004, 19:29
die fernsehfassung ist also die directors cut version, mit nachträglich eingefügten szenen, ja?
So habe ich das verstanden, ja.
Allerdings läuft diese auch erst seit einigen Jahren im Fernsehen.
Früher lief ja immer die deutsche Kinofassung, ab und an auch gekürzt.
Bei imdb.de habe ich noch das gefunden:
# Many American prints are 20 minutes shorter than the original Italian version and delete, among others, all scenes featuring the bartender (Lionel Stander).
# Even the original Italian version was heavily edited, obviously for time reasons; though the scenes cut from it were relatively unimportant (Frank getting a shave before the Flagstone auction, Harmonica being beaten by three deputies) they would nonetheless explain numerous things such as Harmonica's scars that are apparent towards the end of the movie but are not present early on.
# The opening scene is several minutes shorter in the current American print, as, according to Christopher Frayling's biography of Leone, Leone's daughters Rafaella and Francesca appear as girls playing near the station – but in my copy of the VHS, no such girls appear.
# In the U.S. versions issued by Paramount for pay-tv and home video, the ending score („Finale“) is cut off during the ending credit roll and replaced with another section of the score titled „Farewell to Cheyenne.“
# The Italian DVD as an extended version of the movie. Running time 171 mns (standard version use in other countries running time are between 155 to 165 mns). The principal differences are the opening sequence, who is much longer (look at Jack Elem game with the fly), and the closing too (the panoramic shoot is complete before the titles C'ERA UNA VOLTA IL WEST appear). Another missing scene, who as disepear from all the European edit, is in it: after the station scene, Harmonica take his arm because he has a terrible pain in it, and return on his horse.
# Paramount cut the film down to 140 minutes for its U.S. theatrical release. When it was run on U.S. network television, A.B.C. made edits to the 165 minute international version. Paramount's syndicated television version was also the international version (with edits). This meant that more of the film was shown on television than was seen in U.S. theatres.
# The Hungarian cinematic version emits everything starting from 10 minutes from the end (including Cheyenne's death) by adding a „Vege“ (Hungarian for „The End“) title card. No Jason Robards falling off the horse, no Claudia Cardinale bringing water to the workers, no spinning title.
Ansonsten kann man sich ja noch hier http://www.ofdb.de/view.php?page=film&fid=1660 umschauen. Vielleicht steht ja dort irgendwo die Antwort. Habe keine Lust, dass alles zu untersuchen.
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