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Es gibt ein paar coole offizielle Videos von der Tour:
http://vimeo.com/phish/videos/sort:dateHighlights von Rolling-Stone.deWerbungby Michael Parillo
In the cover story of the September issue of Modern Drummer, out now, Phish drummer Jon Fishman holds court on topics ranging from the breakup and reunion of his band to how milking a cow can help you maintain your drumming chops. In this online exclusive interview, he adds to the conversation with a reflection on covering the Rolling Stones’ 1972 masterpiece, Exile On Main St., at Phish’s Festival 8 in Indio, California, on Halloween 2009.
It’s tough to imagine popular rock bands more different than Phish—with its wide stylistic range, lengthy exploratory jams, and friendly stage presence—and the Rolling Stones—with their chiseled blues-based purity and otherworldly rock-god status. But Phish has made a habit of expanding its comfort zone, especially when choosing a “musical costume” for a Halloween show. Past performances have found the band covering the Beatles’ White Album (1994), the Who’s Quadrophenia (1995), the Talking Heads’ Remain In Light (1996), and the Velvet Underground’s Loaded (1998). And though it wasn’t technically a Halloween show, a few days after the Loaded performance Phish covered Pink Floyd’s Dark Side Of The Moon.
In our previous cover story on Fishman, in October 2000, Jon—who’s as much a jazz drummer and historian as he is a rocker—mentions a famous quote by saxophonist Charlie Parker: “Study, learn everything about music, and then forget all that and play.” This idea remains alive and well in the Phish camp, as you’re about to see as you read Fishman’s words on covering entire albums, copping Charlie Watts’s drum parts, and hitting the stage with a five-string guitar, as Keith Richards famously does.
MD: What did you learn from playing Exile On Main St.?
Jon: When Keith Richards says the blues guys were their heroes and everything they ever did was lifted from Chuck Berry and stuff, when you learn Exile On Main St., you really feel how true that is. They have managed not to over-intellectualize anything. They didn’t choke the life out of the music by doing anything fancy production-wise. The instruments sound good, they’re playing the shit out of the songs. No one’s going to accuse Mick Jagger of being overly technical, although he’s very aware of his technique. From everything I’ve heard, he’s a very cerebral guy, but he’s able to let go of all that and just play.Keith Richards, I don’t think he’s ever been doing anything but letting go his entire life. When Trey was doing the tunings for the guitar, he was like, “That’s great—get rid of that sixth string; that thing is just in the way!” It’s just capos and open tunings the whole time. It’s almost like Keith Richards eliminated all need for any kind of technique. He just did whatever he needed to do to the guitar to minimize even the use of fingers. It gets your brain out of the way entirely. When you look at the way he approaches the guitar, it’s like he didn’t even bother learning in the first place—he just forgot it right away and got right to the playing.
Charlie Watts, man, I don’t even know what to say. I always liked his drumming, and I always thought it was the greatest thing for the Rolling Stones. You never looked to him to be the Steve Gadd.
MD: You’ve covered a lot of distinctive drummers in your Halloween shows: Ringo Starr, Keith Moon, Moe Tucker….
Jon: Everything in nature, like flowers that grow in the garden, is its own individual species; there are individual things that make up its beauty. The greatest thing about the Halloween records is that you end up learning so much more than you ever thought you would.I would highly recommend to any band in existence not only to cover other people’s music but to take your favorite album and learn it cover to cover. Whether you actually go out and perform it publicly is almost irrelevant. To learn someone else’s album note for note is as much of a musical course as you could ever want to take. In terms of learning Exile On Main St. and trying to do every Charlie Watts fill, first of all, if you truly apply what you learn from the record, you forget all that shit and you just play, so you don’t end up playing his fills note for note in the performance.
MD: What kind of insight into Charlie Watts’s playing did you get from this experience?
Jon: What I got more than anything was that this guy’s head is so completely immersed in the song and in the support of the vocals that it felt like there wasn’t any thought. I completely understand now why Keith Richards says, “As far as I’m concerned, as long as Charlie’s there I’ll be in the Stones, and when Charlie’s gone I’m gone too.”I couldn’t hear one thing Charlie Watts did that wasn’t directly connected to something else happening in the music. There’s not a single moment where he’s doing a fill to stand out, to prove anything, to do anything other than respond to something else that just happened. He’s the consummate team player.
MD: Phish and the Stones are such different bands.
Jon: Phish, as a group, has always attempted musical forms that we’re not good at. We used to have these coaches go with us on the road, people who would get us a little bit deeper into certain forms. We’d hire a bluegrass specialist to come and teach us proper bluegrass singing in one microphone. Karl Perazzo came out and taught us Latin rhythms for a couple weeks. We had a barbershop quartet coach. And we may do more of that in the future. We’ve had a bit of debate in the band too: Are you better off becoming a band like the Stones, who are really good at one thing?They’re masters of this form that they inherited from the early blues artists, and they’re so good at conveying that human expression is the most important part that it’s like a master class. By trying to incorporate all these different things into your music, do you run the risk of being really mediocre at a bunch of things and never really getting good at any one thing?
The lesson I took from the Stones that really took it a step further was the notion that, while you’re learning all these different technical skills and allowing yourself to be influenced by all these different kinds of things, when you’re out on the stage and your homework is done, forget all that shit and play. Be like Charlie Parker and be like the Rolling Stones, and just forget all that and play.
The Stones went from being a band I really liked and admired to being my heroes in some ways now that they weren’t before. And not just because they made that album. Though the full thing, from cover to cover, is the most soulful, least mental album, and it sounds like the sound of fun. But as I’m getting older and I’ve been in a band now for twenty-five years, I look at the Stones with nothing but reverence. You understand why U2 is an opening band for the Stones.
To be in my situation, in a band that’s been together only twenty-five years, and to look at them, you go, “Wow!” They’re playing really well, and their values are in the right place. I feel like I can look to the Stones now as an example of almost everything to do right. There are so many examples of what not to do, and they’re all part of the boneyard. So, by deduction, it’s: I’m not gonna do what Hendrix did, and I’m not gonna do what the Grateful Dead did, and I’m not gonna do what the Beatles did…. I don’t want to fight about money, and I don’t want to sleep with anyone’s wife like Fleetwood Mac did, and I certainly don’t want to be the Eagles…. [laughs] Here are the pitfalls to avoid, but where’s an example of how to do it right? The Stones!
In dem Magazin selbst steht außerdem noch das hier (ist aus nem Forum rauskopiert, Online findet man dazu noch nichts):
On PH, ’04 specifically:
Fish: I dont think i was playing for myself anymore. Id lost sight of a lot of important things. I was exhausted, and I felt completetly uncreative. Sitting down at the drumset.. I wouldn’t say it wasn’t enjoyable – i’ve never sat at a drumset and not enjoyed it, even in the worst times. But for one reason or another I just wasn’t motivated to go there.
On his drumming fitness at the beginning of the reunion:
Fish: well, this goes back to the original question about what kind of drumming shape I was in. It was piss poor.
On why they stopped playing Fluffhead/sucked at other prog songs:
Fish: But if i’m honest, I also have to include lethargy, laziness, and all kinds of other dysfunctional things that were part of why we were not succeeding at playing „You Enjoy Myself“ or „Fluffhead“ at all.
MD: You took some hits for that.
Fish: And rightfully so!
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Slept through the screening but I bought the DVDJon is a philosopher! Wonderful interview…
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JanPPSchon sicher eins der besten von 09/10, aber es ist wie bei so einigen Songs: was soll noch kommen, wenn sie die definitive Version schon 97/98 gespielt haben? In diesem Fall ist sie vom 8-17-97, The Great Went. Ich frage mich, ob man eine solche funkyness und Intensität nur auf Drogen hinbekommt.
Wahrscheinlich schon! :lol: Aber du hast Recht, das ist die beste Version von 2001. Sowieso der beste Phish-Sommer imho. FUNK!!! (Kenne leider nur die Tapes, war damals nicht mit auf Tour… Erst zur 98er Tour hab ich sie das erste Mal in den USA gesehen.)
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Achtung, Satire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNHIFM0Y87c
Ich bin im Büro und musste es grad schließen, weil ich zu sehr lachen musste.http://phish.com/#/news/2010/23/free-phish-live-bait-vol-01-download-available-now
We’re pleased to offer „Phish: Live Bait Vol. 01“, a ten-track Phish Summer sampler, available for download now at LivePhish.com for free.
We’re giving away „Phish: Live Bait Vol. 01“ fresh off Summer Tour, as a thank you for fans‘ continued support. Share it with your friends, pass the link around, trade the MP3s freely. The tracks were cherry-picked from the band’s first leg of their recently completed Summer Tour, and are fully mixed soundboards from LivePhish.com.
Click here to stream „Phish: Live Bait Vol. 01“ now or download MP3s – absolutely free.
Phish: Live Bait Vol. 01 Tracklisting
1. Alumni Blues > Letter To Jimmy Page > Alumni Blues
2. Backwards Down The Number Line
3. Swept Away > Steep
4. Gumbo >
5. My Sweet One
6. Kill Devil Falls
7. Tweezer >
8. Slave To The Traffic Light
9. Show Of Life
10. Tweezer Reprise--
Slept through the screening but I bought the DVDKeine Meinungen zur gerade gelaufenen Tour? Ich bin ja nach wie vor etwas zwiegespalten, natürlich ist die Band in guter Form und spielt tight, aber die Setlists sind etwas arg vorhersehbar, außerdem begeistern mich die Jams nicht sonderlich, da ist nichts dabei, was aus dem Rahmen fiele, länger als 16-17 Minuten waren nur die üblichen, YEM oder Time Turns Elastic. Und die segues…naja. Zu Beginn der Tour klang das gleich mehrmals recht schmerzhaft, weil Big Red urplötzlich in den Sinn kam, einen neuen Song zu starten.
edit: shanks war schneller mit dem Hinweis auf live Bait.
Besser als solche Sampler fände ich allerdings mal einige längst überfällige releases wichtiger Shows von 97-98.
ein paar Vorschläge:
http://phish.net/setlists/1997.html#1997-07-01 und der folgende Tag
http://phish.net/setlists/1997.html#1997-07-10
http://phish.net/setlists/1997.html#1997-07-31
http://phish.net/setlists/1997.html#1997-11-29Und wieder ne US-Fall-Tour, mann mann. Ob das noch irgendwann
was wird mit Europa…Bisschen Werbung in eigener Sache (ich weiß, gehört hier eigentlich nicht
hin, aber weiter unten beim „Eigene-Band-Forum“ liest´s eh keiner):Wir (Pelagic Zone) spielen morgen abend ab 22.30h für lau in der bar227
in HH-Altona. Als noch frische Band freuen wir uns über jeden Gast.--
With music you got no problems (Allen Woody)JanPPKeine Meinungen zur gerade gelaufenen Tour?
So wirklich viel von der letzten Tour habe ich nicht gehört und große Lust dazu irgendwie auch nicht. Wenn, dann höre ich mir ältere Mitschnitte an.
Positiv in Erinnerung geblieben und immernoch gern gehört ist bei mir allerdings die „Drowned > Gotta Jibboo > Bathtub Gin“ von der ersten Deer Creek Show. Und diese eine Version von „2001“ mit den Michael Jackson Teases.Sehe auch gerade, dass es wieder ne „normale“ Herbst-Tour wird und wieder nix mit Europa. Die Amis werden viel zu arg verwöhnt.
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Slept through the screening but I bought the DVDHab die letzen zwei Konzerte der Tour im Jones Beach Theater gesehen, fand sie ganz großartig, waren meine ersten zwei Phishshows. Sehr zu empfehlen ist vom 17.08. der Halleys Comet>Mikes Song>Simple>Backward Down…>Rock & Roll>Prince Caspian>Rock & Roll>Weekapaug Groove Teil vom zweiten Set. Mir gefiel der erste Abend insgesamt besser als der zweite, wobei der auch seine Momente hatte (Harry Hood, YEM).
Habe gehört, dass die Mike Gordon Band vielleicht im nächstjährigen Jam in the Dam spielen soll.
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^ Neid!!
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Am 19. Oktober erscheint übrigend die „Coral Sky“ DVD bzw. CD also ein Mitschnitt vom Konzert im Coral Sky Amphitheater 1996. Eine ausgezeichnete Wahl imo. Die „Crosseyed & Painless > Run Like An Antelope“ Sequenz gehört wohl zu meinen Top 10 Phish Jams.
On November 2nd, 1996, Phish performed at Coral Sky Amphitheater in West Palm Beach, FL; the only outdoor shed show of the Fall Tour. The show combined the residual energy of Halloween with a tropical feel that could only have happened in South Florida in November. Amidst swaying palms and soft breezes, the band played a deeply experimental show. They were joined by percussionist Karl Perazzo (Santana), whose contribution helped extend and build upon the magic of Halloween, adding polyrhythms that explored new space within Phish’s music. Allman Brothers Band drummer, Butch Trucks, furthur upped the percussion coefficient by sitting in on drums for the Encore.
Often cited as a fan favorite, the epicenter of the show was a pairing of Crosseyed And Painless > Run Like An Antelope. Coral Sky showcases the thrilling genesis of a more rhythmic, textured style of group improvisation and conveys the band and crowd’s shared excitement about the breakthrough. This 2-DVD set features more than 2 1/2 hours of footage with 5.1 Dolby Surround or optional PCM Stereo sound audio, mixed from multi-track masters.
Als Appetizer, Harry Hood.
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Slept through the screening but I bought the DVDShanks
Am 19. Oktober erscheint übrigend die „Coral Sky“ DVD bzw. CD also ein Mitschnitt vom Konzert im Coral Sky Amphitheater 1996. Eine ausgezeichnete Wahl imo. Die „Crosseyed & Painless > Run Like An Antelope“ Sequenz gehört wohl zu meinen Top 10 Phish Jams.Du kennst auch jede Show, was?
Diese DVD ist ja mal wieder ne Mogelpackung, eins dieser Videoscreen-Mitschnitte, wo lediglich Bilder für den großen Screen während des Konzertes produziert worden. Ist ja schön, dass es überhaupt Bilder gibt, aber dann könnten sie die doch auch kostenlos oder günstig als download anbieten und nicht groß als die neue Phish DVD vermarkten.
Im übrigen – wenn ich mir mal danach eins der neuen Videos, zB vom Greek Theater, anschaue merke ich, wie großartig der neue Soundmischer ist, besser klangen sie nie, eigentlich klingt Mike zum ersten Mal vernünftig.JanPPDu kennst auch jede Show, was?
Leider nein. Ich arbeite aber daran.
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Slept through the screening but I bought the DVDEs gibt einen neuen ,kostenlosen Download-Sampler von der Sommertour 2010
http://www.livephish.com/music/0,584/Phish-mp3-Free-download-Live-Bait-Vol-02.html
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Hallo Freunde
unter:
http://hotfile.com/list/916402/0a16d71
gibt es die bisherigen Gigs der Fall-Tour – und hier sogar ein prima Video von dem Auftritt beim Austin City Limits Festival.
Einfach schön, die Jungs mal wieder zu sehen – und sie sind noch fit genug, um YEM auf dem Trampolin springend zu spielen.
Hat schon jemand ne Idee, was Phish dieses Jahr zu Halloween wohl covert?
Ich wünsche mir ja mal irgendwas von Zappa, glaube aber immer mehr, dass es wohl auf „Houses of the Holy“ oder „Physical Graffiti“ hinaus läuft…
Was denkt Ihr, was wünscht Ihr Euch?
Grüße
Hugo
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